Gary Goldman

And a lot of their, the parents of these kids are in show business.

And then the word is going to get out.

And it's very hard to protect a title.

So we just have to keep it secret.

Yeah, we had to keep it secret.

Gary?

Yeah, well, the idea here is all of us tell our kids pretty much, or you have to decide whether or not to tell your kids, you can be whatever you want to be when you grow up.

And there's enormous pressure to say it, even though we know as adults that's not exactly true.

That's really kind of magical thinking masquerading as good advice.

So do you want to send your kids out into the world knowing nothing except you can be whatever you want to be, and then you just go out there and try, try, try, try, try, and then you encounter real life and you're not prepared for it?

On the other hand, if you don't teach your kids that, they're going to be totally out-competed by all the other kids in the class who have been told they can be whatever they want to be.

So I wanted to basically surround these cliches of

conventional wisdom with ridiculous, zany, cautionary tales about animals who are told they can be whatever they want to be and basically encounter the constraints that all of us encounter in life.

And I got my papers together, and I put it in the portfolio, and I handed it to him.

And then I hear from my agent, they passed.

That's all.

They passed.

Both of my sons are in the car together.

They say, Dad, we're driving down the freeway, and we see a billboard.

And you're not going to believe it, but it has your loony characters on it.