Gary Jubelin

And if they haven't worked it out yet, they will.

They will.

I thought, yeah, I had people in the police who were rock solid with me.

And you could have heard echoes when the police came after me.

And the ones that stand up mean so much.

They're friends for life.

The others that just disappear because it doesn't benefit them by being associated.

Well, look, we've taken you into a dark place for the first part of the podcast, but I can assure people that when we get back, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

I appreciate how open and honest you've been.

And the stuff that you're doing now is having an impact.

And just the way that we haven't even got you turning your life around, but I want you to tell us how you turned your life around because, yeah, let's just look at your situation.

Done time in jail, addicted to drugs, big time.

You got no history as far as society's concerned.

You'd never had a license.

No bank accounts, nothing in my name.

Yeah, and so, yeah, at a low point, that's pretty low, but we're going to talk in part two how you turn your life around.

So I encourage people to listen to that.

Yeah, well, I can see it just on your face that you're lighting up there, the other shit that we've been talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah, did that, did that.