Gary Lineker

But, you know, for golf, for example, you know, Victor Hoyland.

But what they've done there, they've basically let kids play sport if they want to and do what they want.

There's no league tables.

There's no winning and losing.

You're just playing for fun.

And they've found that so many more young people are sticking with sport because they're having fun and enjoying it.

Whereas before, and in most other countries, there's maybe...

The parents are pushing them or the coaches are pushing them and so many kids get put off sport and hate it.

Anyway, I think you picked out a few sports people that have made it to the very top and it's very public that we know what their parents are and they did have pushy parents.

My view is they probably made it

in spite of them, rather than because of them.

And I can't prove that.

But I know so many sports people that have been incredibly successful that have had support from their parents, but the parents haven't necessarily pushed them.

Or also, you know, someone like Messi, for example, or, you know, you could find so many examples of...

of sports people that haven't had parents that have, like, pushed them all the way.

They've probably supported them.

And I think there's a fundamental difference.

But because we know about the Williams sisters and we know about Tiger Woods, everyone uses those as an example.

I wonder if it's the same for Rory McIlroy, Scottish chef.

Clearly, Rory's parents are incredibly supportive.