Gary Neville

But whacking them... Listen, people say, well, he's whacked them in the face.

Whacking them there for me, which he would have got away with, was he's trying to lift the crowd, lift us players, just can see the goal, let's get after them.

Now for me, as soon as Torreira moves that ball on, if he wants to sort of shoulder charge him, knock him over, lift him, give him a bit of a cheer from the crowd, I think that's fine.

The fact when you start actually bringing your arm into it, into someone's face, that's when you've got a problem.

But the power of him anyway, if he wanted to sort of... Listen, we've been in games where you sort of, a challenge sets the tone, it lifts people.

I'm talking about a fair challenge also.

But he could have just sort of shoulder charged him if he wanted to sort of lift people.

There wouldn't have been a problem with that.

As soon as he uses the arm, that's when he has got a problem.

I just think it's daft.

It's silly from Troy Deeney.

Did you need some convincing to see it a few times before you thought red?

Yeah, yeah, I did.

But listen, when you put your arm to someone's face like that, the thing for me is not so much how far away the ball's gone.

I think that's the thing for me, not so much the action.

I think if the ball's right there and he catches Torreira in his face, it could be a yellow card, really.

Torreira's saying, I don't think it's an elbow.

No, I don't think so, yeah.

I mean, I think I said a couple of weeks ago, I didn't think they would get in the top four because of their away form.

I didn't expect them to win tonight.