Gary O'Donoghue
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1,054 appearances
15 recordings
4 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard 1 Jul
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No, I mean, it makes me think that, you know, whatever it was 50, 60 years ago, you know, Jimmy Carter said he was going to put his peanut farm into a trust so there couldn't be any kind of question about his financial dealings.
And you kind of think, yes, things have definitely changed.
And I think the reason for that is because, and this is, you know, this will sound slightly banal, I guess, and the political scientists have a word for it, and I can't for the life of me remember it is, but the
the point of what's normal has shifted.
know so the the politics have shifted in such a way uh they've pushed the boundaries in such a way that this stuff kind of flows over a little bit now not for everyone of course and not for democrats and for some more independent-minded voters here but there isn't the the level of outrage outside of you know the places you would normally expect to find it about this kind of thing so
That is a successful political achievement, is it not?
If you're in Donald Trump's position and his family's position, that you've made this stuff kind of feel kind of normal.
You would have thought, wouldn't you, in a two-party system that if one end of the seesaw, you know, is having problems, the other end kind of swings up.
It doesn't work like that here because of the sort of fractured nature of political opinion as opposed to the structure of political parties.
It either leads to apathy or for people to go off into sort of fringe activities or fringe beliefs.
So no, they're not.
And of course, the problem is that they...
are having their own internal battles, their own internal ideological battles.
We saw those victories for Democratic Socialist Party people in primaries in New York this week.
There's a tug of war for the heart of the Democratic Party going on, which makes it hard for them.
to focus on what you might call their real opposition target, because there's so much infighting going on.
And that means a unified message is always hard, because one part of the party wants to really focus on core bread and butter stuff, perhaps.
Other parts want to focus on Trump and beating Trump.
And all those things come out as a bit of a mush.
So they don't really benefit.
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