Gary Vee

But to your point, and I'm humbled by your observation, I've also deeply tried to get people to understand.

And that's over here.

And then over here, if you get emotionally strong, not just business and marketing strong, well, then none of it actually matters and you've won.

I don't know what it is.

Or even just some grace.

Yes.

I do not understand.

I mean –

Interesting.

Interesting.

But I learned a lot to be a man by watching what he would not do.

I don't want to razz my dad on his birthday.

My father would have fired that person, not because I'm better than my father, but because for my father, he put the ideology of stealing in such a place emotionally that it is the cardinal sin.

that it is the scarlet letter.

In fact, one of the quintessential moments of my life was the first time I went to work for my father's liquor store when I was 14 years old, brother.

We drove for 45 minutes.

My father's the opposite of me in a lot of ways.

including i have the gift of gab and talk all the time and my father did not say one word to me in a 45 minute drive to work there's nothing to say and we we literally drove 45 minutes because we live for my parents still live 45 minutes from my dad's store wow

And we drove down Route 78 in New Jersey.

He did not say one word to me.