Gavin Baker

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I think Pony Ma from Tencent was there, you know, the Deep Seek CEO is there.
But they kind of gave pride of place to the people who were making physical goods plus deep seek and maybe deemphasized so some of the social networks.
And the last thing I would say, just a stat that just builds on what David just said about
You know, how entrepreneurship amongst kind of like rural Chinese is kind of what jumpstarted China's economy.
I think at the towards the end of the Soviet Union.
They could not produce enough food using kind of um socialist systems.
So they let two percent of the acreage in the Soviet Union kind of like be, you know, more entrepreneurial and self-organized.
And that two percent of the acreage produced a majority of their food, you know, just kind of shows the superiority of kind of capitalism.
to socialism in in a world in which there are resource constraints.
Okay, Gavin, go ahead.
Just I 100% agree.
You need rule of law.
It's essential for any system of government, and but particularly for capitalism.
I mean, in some ways, capitalism is the rule of law with private property.
But I would say, going back to 2018, being like kind of glory days for China, they were working.
You know, the these kind of internet entrepreneurs did create kind of the only kind of internet companies that were capable of challenging America.
American internet companies, not just in China, but globally, and obviously most American internet companies aren't allowed to particip to participate in China.
But you know, the problem was those those you know CEOs became so powerful that they were started to feel comfortable challenging the CCP.
And you know, Jack Ma made some comments in two thousand I I don't remember exactly when, that were he just vaguely critical.
And you know, that was it.
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