Gavin Baker

Furthermore, markets and everything.

It is easy enough to hire a traitorous American to access tools of wrongdoing.

That's a really good point.

How can you verify that every American is loyal?

Or for a matter, it is not that difficult to fake citizenship in various ways.

Yeah, there's a very controversial story of Virgil Griffith, a cryptocurrency researcher who I actually met once.

He worked at Caltech, was deep in math, and very excited about cryptocurrency, and he went and gave a talk on cryptocurrency in North Korea, explaining how cryptocurrency works and how cryptography works, and that was seen as a violation of export controls, and he was sent to prison.

And the crypto community is very upset about that because they maintain that math should not be illegal.

This information should not be illegal.

The government side is helping.

What was his defense?

can be used to create a store of value that is unsanctionable, essentially.

And so it was seen as a violation of sanctions by the US government.

And more importantly, it's seen as unpatriotic.

I don't know.

I don't know.

They have a lot of houses.

Potentially.

Potentially.

This one, number five by Tyler Cowen, was a little bit controversial.