Gavin de Becker

Then they come out.

with their report, and not only do they come out with their report saying that there's no link between any vaccine and any autism in any child, not only that, but they say it should not be further studied.

These guys who will do study after study after study for years, because they're getting paid for it, on this one they decide no more studies.

I mean, it's quite remarkable.

And that is the thing that allows everybody to say to you and to me and to Bobby Kennedy, oh, that's debunked.

That's how it happened.

That's the debunking.

And what I'm trying to do is show how the sausage is made in these debunking campaigns.

And it's not pretty.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, of course.

And, you know, you asked at the very beginning, did I think that some of these things were intentional or were they simply exploiting the opportunities that came?

I now believe that very few things are purely organic events.

That's what I believe.

In other words, any giant social movement like COVID is a giant social movement.

I'm not talking about the virus.

I'm talking about the response.

This is not accidental.

This is not people, oh, we thought this and we tried that and we were just doing our best to figure stuff out.

That's now impossible, that theory.