Gavin de Becker

Oh, but, you know, this is true with COVID as well.

You can be generous and say people didn't know things early on, but it is not possible to now look back, for example, at COVID and the COVID vaccine and say they don't know it now.

Right.

In other words, at this point,

It's not possible for Albert Bourla to say, oh, we had no idea about that myocarditis that would cause

sudden death in, you know, kids, athletic boys go to sleep at night and they're found dead in their bed in the morning.

Not one, not two, but many.

And right in the beginning of COVID, two different states with two different coroners did two different reports that both said these kids who were found in their bed dead in the morning, 16 years old, both of them two days apart, died from vaccine-induced myocarditis.

Now,

Clearly, that should have been the biggest news story in the world.

Because we were all taking it, right?

COVID happened before the internet.

Yeah, well, things did happen before the Internet.

Yeah, well, you know, in a way, Joe, you could look at swine flu in 1976 and also again in 2009, which were before the Internet.

And they actually did worse in a way.

What the Internet did is favorably allowed engagements like we're having today and all the stuff you've done.

But it also allowed governments to have a control mechanism.

I was looking for my iPhone, you know, right into our iPhones.

And so what was happening is they were getting, are, not were, getting better and better and better at controlling human perception.

And I think it's true that the Internet is a great gift on the one hand, but it's also, look, there's no way they're going to leave the Internet untouched and not also utilize it in this basically information war that's going on.