Gavin de Becker

And then they studied for a while and they studied for a while.

And lo and behold, 40 years had gone by.

And they hadn't come out with a ruling to say there shouldn't be any asbestos in Johnson & Johnson baby powder.

When did they come out with that ruling, by the way?

Last year, end of 2024, after 52 years.

So at the beginning, the government is saying, asbestos?

No, what are you talking about?

Agent Orange, the same story.

Agent Orange is a material used in Vietnam for defoliation.

hurt people, killed people, and caused birth defects in their kids, including American soldiers, lots of them.

The government knew it.

They had tested it on 40 lab mice.

And lab mice don't have a good life generally anyway.

They don't have good life expectancy.

But in this case, 38 died within five days.

What did the government do with that information?

Oh, put that in a top-secret file and get rid of that.

And then it sits for a long, long time, and the Institute of Medicine says, Agent Orange, hurting people, what are you talking about?

No.

And they lie and they lie and they lie.