Gavin de Becker

It kind of, you know, I've been so blessed or lucky, whatever word you want to use, or fortunate in my life that my work, you've got all these books as examples, I loved doing it.

wasn't work.

I love, sometimes it's hard, but hard is not the same as like feeling like I'm just stamping something out in this factory, which would be a kind of hell for me, I guess.

I loved, I was doing what I was on the planet to do.

I think everybody isn't that lucky.

That's the best, when you let it go.

I let it go, yeah.

And suddenly it happens.

Yes, it does fit everything you want is downstream.

In fact, that's not, you know, even getting on a plane is downstream.

You didn't get on a plane that flies backwards or has no engines.

That's what I'm talking about is when you find yourself, and I certainly have in my life, find myself doing something that is so difficult to do.

and so unrewarding, and it feels like I'm trying to swim upstream, which I can tell you from experience in lots of rivers, some of them in Fiji, it doesn't work.

You don't get a lot of mileage swimming upstream.

That's a very good question.

I mean, a good question in that it's a new question.

I'll give you what I hope.

I think if that book had been about Chinese pottery or about spices or any subject, carpentry, it also would have worked well because it had, by a number of blessings, it had some core truths in it.

One of the things I'm saying to them is forget about experts.

You don't need an expert to be telling you things that are in your own body.