Gavin de Becker

It's quite serious.

And, you know, there was a giant outbreak of polio.

Certainly the biggest and most important one happened in New York.

And there, too, the Rockefeller Foundation was working on funding gain of function research on polio to make it worse.

Yeah, we've talked about this.

Nowhere on the planet Earth had there ever been another outbreak like that.

And the reason that polio, you know, was fatal to some people is because of the paralysis piece.

But as you said, the paralysis may very well be the result of insecticides and other

and other modern pathogens.

You asked me the big question, do I think it's intentional?

My easiest answer is that I can believe almost anything.

I obviously do not know the answer to that question, but I think it's intentional that they were doing gain-of-function research against the objection of many people.

including President Obama, you know, opposed it, and they offshored it to China.

Many people wrote articles against it.

It is quite literally mad scientist insane.

It's quite literally insane to say, can I make something worse than nature might, because it might make it one day.

Why are you doing that?

It's never worked, right?

They've never done the thing of having...

Well, it's both because the research was make bioweapons.