Gavin de Becker

It might be unaligned people who share incentives.

I'll give you a fast example.

COVID comes.

People who used to make perfume sprayers now make hand sanitizers.

People who used to make bumper stickers now make stickers that say stand six feet apart.

In other words, an incentive comes, and it doesn't require that those people all sat in a conspiratorial room at some hotel in Germany and rub their hands together and make the plan.

Human nature, particularly when you centralize big governments –

This is the direction it moves in, which is it moves in the direction of tyranny.

When I was here before, a few years ago, I made this point that's only been cemented in the interim, which is that if you look at world history as a big pie chart, all of it is tyranny, and there's just a tiny little sliver of the lives we've been blessed to live up until 2020, meaning a tiny sliver of freedom, Western Europe, the United States, and all the rest is tyranny,

which means tyranny is the natural order for human beings.

That's the way it normally is run.

Of course.

And what you see is, look, any suffering that I've done in the last few years personally has been because of my resistance to let go of

the illusions and delusions that I grew up with.

You know, the courts will be fair.

The government will respect our freedom no matter what.

The Constitution will be followed no matter what.

It's hard to let go of that stuff.

It's not easy.

And I still have resistance to it.