Gavin Newsom (via clip or mention)

From a tactical perspective, from the prism of purely politics, there's no doubt that the Democratic Party needs to be, dare I say, more culturally normal.

I believe that.

Less prone to spending a disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity, politics.

More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter, the stacking of stress in terms of electricity bills and child care costs and health care and obviously housing costs and how easily we get trapped in that.

How I've fallen prey to that.

I mean, here I was.

way out front on marriage equality.

So I understand this from both on the receiving end of this and on the front end of this, leading the pack.

So I think there has to be some consideration of that.

But I think if you can't hold the line on competitive sports, again, sports, there's some nuance in this larger conversation.

But competitive medal sports, if we can't find that nuance, I think we're going to lose a lot of people that we're not going to get invited to a larger conversation.