Geoffrey Hinton

But my belief is that the U.S.

military isn't committed to always being a human involved in each decision to kill.

What they say is there will always be human oversight.

But in the heat of battle—

You've got a drone that's going up against a Russian tank, and you don't have time for a human to say, is it okay for the drone to drop a grenade on this soldier?

So my suspicion is the US military, if you made the recommendation, there should always be a person.

Yeah.

I don't think they stand by that anymore.

I think what they say is there'll always be human oversight, which is a much vaguer thing.

Okay.

If you ask, when do people cooperate?

People cooperate when their interests are aligned.

So at the height of the Cold War, the USA and the USSR cooperated on not having a global thermonuclear war, because it wasn't in either of their interests.

Their interests were aligned.

So if you look at the risks of AI, there's using AI to corrupt elections with fake videos.

The country's interests are anti-aligned.

They're all doing it to each other.

There's cyber attacks.

Their interests are basically anti-aligned.

There's terrorists creating viruses where their interests are probably aligned, so they might cooperate there.