Geoffrey Woo

Just to make your, just to make sending the five, just so you have enough energy to send the five emails a day that like really matter, that like, you know, move your workforce.

El Segundo.

Well, yeah, I do wonder if this health obsession will further...

reduce the birth rate.

Yes.

Phones are clearly like cigarettes for your life, you know, for your mind, you know, like they're, they're, they're not, uh, they're certainly, they, they have some utility just like a cigarette does a cigarette and kind of make you relaxed or a little bit focused, whatever, whatever, whatever it is, but it's certainly bad for you overall.

Uh, phones to be, seem to be bad for a number of reasons.

Um,

And I do think it's funny, biohacking and making the number go up is totally at odds with parenting in so many ways.

You'll never meet a parent that has children under five that's like, oh, yeah.

A friend of ours texted us over the weekend and said, after having a kid, it's just so funny to think about single people taking a vacation to unwind.

Unwind from what?

Sleeping in?

No, but I do, but, you know, when you think of, and I think back to the Stephen Bartlett viral moment where he's talking about, you know, having a couple glasses of wine.

The drink he got that knocked him out for three days, yeah.

And just thinking like, wow, like parenting is going to be really rough for someone that gets that thrown off from, you know, a couple drinks because you don't really get to decide from midnight to,

2.30 a.m., you might be up three times a week.

People have built their lives so that that never happens.

And the psychologists... Yeah, and the other thing, you've seen the data that shows that, I think, women that have kids, you know, later in their 30s are much, live longer, like significantly longer.

This is what I was getting.