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George Church

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Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

So, for example, you almost said it, which was, you know, take a very multigenic trait in humans, like height is something that's probably the most well-studied one, simply because no matter what gene you're, no matter what,

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

medical condition you're studying, you collect information on height and weight and things like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Anyway, they tracked it down to on the order of 10,000 genes of which we have 20,000 protein coding genes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Some of them are RNA coding genes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And they each have a tiny influence on height.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But if you take growth hormone, somatotropin, that you have extreme examples where you'll get extremely low, small stature and extremely high stature due to that one alone.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And in fact, it's used clinically as well for seven different studies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

medical treatments.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

So that's a perfect example of how much we can minimize something, sometimes called reductionism.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Reductionism isn't all bad.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Sometimes it helps us bring a product into medicine.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Sometimes it helps us understand or build a tool chest or a

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

module that we can use in other cases and translate it to other species.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

So you hit on it just right, is that not everything will translate, but we start accumulating these widgets.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It's kind of like all the electronic widgets that we accumulate over time, that if we just want to slap it into the next circuit, you might be able to.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Biology, we've got a real gift, which is it's both very much more complicated than almost anything we've designed from scratch.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But it also is a lot more forgiving in a certain sense, is that you can have an animal or even a human that has two heads, which is not something that they evolutionarily have.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

There was not evolutionary selection specifically to have two heads, but just a little deviation from the normal developmental pattern during fetal development.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And they both function fine, they control subsets of the body.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And they have their own personality, their own life.