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George Church

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Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And so far, there aren't too many examples of that, or any examples of that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But mirror life, if it can be weaponized, then we took it to a whole nother level of concern.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And the concern was that if we got it to a certain point, it would be easy to weaponize it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And again, there's practical considerations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It may be that most people who would consider weaponizing mirror life would probably be satisfied with weaponizing viruses that already exist, that are already pathogens.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And they wouldn't want to destroy themselves and their family and their legacy and everything like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But all it takes is one, you know, one group probably or one person.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But your question is, is it inevitable?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It might be.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It's quite possible it's already here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

In other words, we already have mirror life in our

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

in our solar system or maybe even on our planet, it just hasn't been weaponized, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And so it's just like what we were saying in the science paper is this seems like the sort of thing that could wipe out all competing life if we're properly weaponized, but there are probably a few things like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And what we really need to do is reduce the motivation to do that, maybe increase our

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

preparedness for a variety of existential threats, some of which will be natural, some of which will be, you know, one disgruntled person who has essentially too much power because, you know, over history of

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

humanity, the amount of things that a single person can do has grown very significantly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I mean, it used to be when you had your bare hands, there was kind of a limit to what one person could do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

A large number of people could team up and get, let's say, a mammoth or something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But today, one person with the right connections or right access to technology