George Church

you know, could blow up a city, right?

And that's a huge increase in capability.

And I think we may want to start dialing that back a little bit somehow.

Offense often does have an advantage, but so far we haven't, you know, we made it through the Cold War without blowing up

any hydrogen bombs, as far as I know, accidentally or intentionally on enemies.

We did two atomic bombs.

But a lot of that is based on the difficulty of building hydrogen or atomic bombs.

The thing that's alarming to people like me is that biotechnology

enables smaller and smaller efforts, harder and harder to detect, harder and more and more subtle to the stochastic variation between people.

There's some people that are just so happy, they would never want to do anything close to that, or they're so responsible or ethical or whatever.

and then there are other people who like whenever they have a bad day they want to take a lot of people with them right and you know maybe some progress in psychiatric uh medicine would help again you don't want to force that on people you want to make sure that right that they're that if they don't want to get cured they you can't force them but you can make it available to them that might help hopefully there's a more technological solution or more robust solution than

Well, there will be technological solutions to the psychiatric problem.

It could be even people who aren't sure whether they want to be helped or not can try it out, and it's reversible, and they say, yes, I like that better.

Okay, let's try that.

then there's other things that cause you to have bad days.

It's not just your psyche, it's also the environment.

So if you're surrounded by your people being starved or infectious disease or being shot at or something like that, those are things that are subject to

sociological and technological solutions.

I'm not trying to reassure you.

And, you know, we're having a conversation about what it takes, and that might be, that's one scenario for what it might take.