George Kamel

So these are three main issues.

And hearing the call, George, what I would suggest is if you can take a level of ownership in this too, and then you can come to her and say, you know what?

We've gotten off on the wrong track.

both of us and I see my part in this and I want to change what I'm doing today and I hope that you're here with me because we can't keep going like this.

I want you to know that I trust you.

I want our finances to be together and what I'm finding right now is I was focused on debt and I kind of was a hypocrite because I was saying my debt was okay but yours wasn't and I think honestly going forward, we just need to say that debt has not been good for our relationship and going forward,

I don't want to engage on it.

I don't know about you, but this is what I want to talk to you about.

And that's how I would approach this.

Yeah.

So what I would do then is I would do them in order.

If it's $6,400, you know, if the $6,300 one is the smallest one, do that one first and then do the $6,400 one and then do the $6,600 one.

So when you do the debt snowball, everybody, what we're doing here is we're listing the debts smallest to largest by balance.

Not by monthly payment, not by interest rate.

It truly is by balance.

And when you do that, you get those small wins quickly.

You feel that that rush of dopamine.

You feel like, hey, I did something and you want to go to the next one.

And it really is proven to be the best method to pay off your debt quickly.

And that's what's going to work for George, too.