George Knapp

And it's spectacular.

These are some of the elite of the elites in aviation and aviation.

I don't know if our friend Dave Fravor will agree that these are the best pilots in the world, but they're pretty close.

They're certainly in the conversation.

We've never been able to talk to a Thunderbird pilot about UFOs until, you know, a couple of years ago.

There was a considerable amount of stigma around this topic.

But as of seven, eight months ago, one of the former Thunderbird pilots decided to come forward and talk about his encounters, UFO encounters.

And I use that plural version because he's had more than one.

You want to introduce him, Jeremy?

Your name, Max Afterburner, that's a great name.

And you've got something like 500,000 subscribers.

So a lot of these are your fellow aviators, former military guys, I would think.

Let's talk about stigma, because you said that you got this great episode about your UFO sightings or encounters.

And you admit, hey, there is real stigma about this for current duty on duty military guys.

And and until recently, you didn't feel comfortable talking about it.

Now you do.

Is this something that you talk about with fellow aviators privately about the UFO topic?

Is it does it come up?

Well, let's jump into it.

So you came out with this episode seven, eight months ago.