George Packer

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697 appearances 3 recordings 2 series first heard May 2025 last heard 6 May

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these big abstractions called democracy, authoritarianism, rule of law institutions.
It's just not the way we're wired unless that's our job, like you and me.
I don't think it's quite that bleak.
I mean, the No Kings rallies, the last one, I guess it was mid-October, drew something like 7 million Americans to the streets all over the country.
And I happened to be visiting our son at a small town college, and this town couldn't have had more than, I don't know,
30,000 residents, and there must have been 3,000 people in the streets.
So the fact that it's happening across the country, not just in New York, Washington, San Francisco, Chicago, tells me that there's a broad, it's not majority, but a broad popular unease that is enough to get 7 million people to come out on a Saturday.
And
who knows how many more they sort of speak for, but who aren't coming out.
I don't want to overdo the, you know, we're just a herd of sheep who can't be bothered to pay any attention to the fact that the constitution is being trashed on a daily basis.
I don't think it's, it's that bad, but it's very hard to know how to, how to oppose it.
What do you do?
I've been asked that over and over.
I'm sure you are too, John, what should we do?
Aside from voting, or in my case, writing, in your case, writing and speaking, what should we do?
And most people don't have a thing to do.
There isn't a kind of clear structure or instrument that they can pick up in order to resist the erosion of democracy.
It's too big for that.
But as for whether...
the price of your electric bill and your groceries is the way to get elected.
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