George Packer

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697 appearances 3 recordings 2 series first heard May 2025 last heard 6 May

George Packer’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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So what does liberal democracy offer or what can it offer that can compete with what is essentially a kind of fascist appeal coming from the right?
Not that
These are fascists.
They're not.
They're actually not as serious as the fascists were.
So they're less than fascists.
It's an insult, but they have an aspiration to lead in that kind of way.
So what can liberal Democrats offer?
Does free speech and due process get people to the barricades?
Is the rule of law what will make young men and young women get up at four in the morning and go out and train and canvas and whatever?
I don't have a good answer.
I do think an exhaustion with how low we've sunk, just as young people today are now trying to get rid of their phones, right?
This is a, you probably hear about this.
It's a new movement.
I see it in my, to some extent in my own kids, I see it in campuses just as they are finally saying, how could you have conducted this experiment on this?
It's been terrible.
We're going to try to save ourselves.
It may be that the moral collapse, which starts with our highest leaders, might so disillusion young people
that they will look for some leader who says, can we start with common decency?
Can we start with treating each other like human beings?
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