Gerald (Jerry) Butts

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96 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 8 Jul

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The Bridge with Peter Mansbridge · Moore-Butts Encore Episode - Making Tough Choices · 8 Jul 2026 podcast

So in, you know, the olden days that Peter, maybe you'll tell me, never existed, what you would do is get a committee together of representatives from all parties, the conservatives at least presumably thinking that they'll form a government at some point in the future.

And the, well, the smaller parties are in a difficult position and the BQs and conservatives

there's no political gain for them to take any water in their wine here especially in rural quebec but i would love to see some form of cross-partisan cooperation on this because man it's it's a mess and and it actually reminds me of one of the first big issues i was involved in in politics when i was trying to build the platform for dalton mcginty in opposition

And the Ontario government, because of cost overruns in the nuclear fleet, had just gone through this excruciatingly painful reform of Ontario Hydro, where they broke Ontario Hydro up and they created the companies we have today.

And that all came from a select committee of the legislature where the Liberals who had been in power relatively recently put one of their most senior people on it.

A great man by the name of Sean Conway, who I've been thinking a lot about this week because his seatmate, James Bradley, sadly passed away.

Maybe another show.

But everybody took that deadly seriously because they knew that there were $21 billion that couldn't be accounted for by the current Ontario hydro that had to be defeased somehow by the taxpayer down the road.

And they ended up with a relatively sensible policy that all parties agreed to.

And it didn't really change when the government changed.

So to me, if I were, you know, someone as my favorite junior high school teacher used to say, if someone screwed God's face on me today, I would say guys and gals get together and try and figure out a bipartisan approach to this, because it's first of all,

It's going to take a long time to fix and both parties are going to have to support it because, you know, chances are both parties will have to govern over it.

Yeah, I think there are people in particular on an issue like this where I don't think there's a lot of political hate to be made here on either side, to be honest.

I think that it's going to cause headaches.

Any kind of reform here is going to cause headaches.

Change is going to come.

It's a question of whether or not it's going to be slow or fast.

and both parties are going to have to manage it so i i just i think this is one of those issues where in the public interest if i were in my old job i'd call whoever was in that job and whatever whoever happened to be leader of the opposition at the time and say uh look we've got to sit down and talk about this because it's going to be it's going to be a problem for you someday

No, I don't think you're crazy about it at all, Peter.

I think sometimes the most...

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