Gerald Casale

Massive evidence of devolution in the culture of people less able to think logically, critically, more pronounced ability to just spout slogans back at you that they learned and mass conformity that we were warning against.

Yeah.

We thought we were canaries in a coal mine and being kind of snarky and student cool, but it's beyond idiocracy now.

Do you agree with that?

No, you're right.

Subversion's the word.

Okay.

We were trying to subvert in a creative way.

Our...

Our whole existence was a creative response to horror and drama.

That's really what it was.

And we were just anti-stupid, okay?

It went beyond any kind of partisan thing.

It was about the duality of human nature being so flawed and so dangerous.

that what we saw was the danger of stupidity, you know, just crushing liberty and the human spirit.

And so we were being funny and creative and having fun.

We were embracing technology.

And Mark was definitely – he was the guy that had –

a mini Moog and an art bodice, you know, and he wasn't interested in trying to make beautiful fake orchestral sounds.

He was making noise.