Ginni Rometty

And so there's a million of these decisions.

I think most people that run firms, any size firm, they're just one right after another like that.

And you're always making that short and long tension of what am I giving up?

Yeah, very simple.

Honor your promises.

And that happens over time.

I mean, in service of, you know, which is often why you can work with competitors, because if you are really in service of you and you need something, it takes two of us to do it.

That becomes easier to do because I really we both care.

You get what you needed.

And so I can remember during one of the times I was on a European trip and at the time, a lot of this is still true.

about views about technology and national technology giants and global ones and the pros and the cons.

And countries want their own national champions, quite obvious.

I mean, if I'm France or Germany.

And there was a lot of discussion about security and data and who was getting access to what.

And I can remember being in one of the, I was with Chancellor Merkel, had met her many times.

She's very well prepared, very well prepared every time she would know.

And I started to explain all these things about why, how, you know,

how we don't share data, who it belongs to.

Our systems never had back doors, and she sort of stopped me.

Like, you're one of the good guys.