Glenn Greenwald
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Right.
She was probably embarrassed.
Yeah.
And, and, and it was a very embarrassing situation.
Like I don't blame her for wanting to distance herself, but the fact that she's still with him, who knows why.
And then finally, like we have a lot of people in very exactly.
Probably that's one of the reasons.
But then they're also like, there are people in very high political positions that we elect and that we let lead us these days who 40 years ago would never have been even remotely conceivably possible.
Gary Hart got driven out of the 1988 race when he was discovered having an affair with Donna Rice, probably for anyone younger than us that's old, that's things they've never heard of.
And yet, you fast forward it and you have people like
Bill Clinton, who gets reelected, and Donald Trump, who has had his own very public adulteries and affairs and overlapping sorts of things.
Totally.
This makes me start to wonder, like, why are we so obsessed with that couple and shaming them when the mores have clearly changed around the people who have a lot more power and influence than they do?
People look at it through the prism of their own lives and what has either happened in their own lives, what they've done, what their spouse has done, what they fear might happen.
I think that's why some of these things resonate.
I guess all I'm saying is that the public morality being imposed on them seems inconsistent
for me, with the public morality that we've kind of allowed to take root where we know that a lot of people with a lot of power in politics or in business do this and far worse.
And we seem to come to the conclusion as a society, that's not our business.
Yes.
I totally agree.