Glenn Greenwald

And to go through that for so many years and have your payment be dying in that manner at the hands of that person,

it's like uniquely sickening.

I'm a little conflicted on this.

I don't know if we see this the same way.

I think the thing that was most bothersome was that she's head of HR.

And that's a job where you're supposed to be enforcing rules of workplace propriety.

And so for all, for all the people who might, you know, be having an affair with their boss to have it be the head of the age HR, who a lot of you, like there are few worst people in general.

I don't mean to like overly generalize, but usually like HR managers are the worst.

Like those are the worst people who are just constantly like monitoring you and like pretending they're trying to support you.

And in reality, they're really just working for the corporation to protect the corporation against you.

Yeah, for anything.

I think a lot of the schadenfreude is from people's experience with HR and the fact that she was an HR manager.

I do think there's a question when there's a married couple and then there's a woman who ends up having sex with the man in that married couple,

Who actually bears most of the blame in that situation?

Like to me, it has always seemed like the person in the marriage who has promised the fidelity is the one who bears most of the blame and not the woman who doesn't have a similar commitment.

And then, you know, we also have people- I don't disagree with that.

Right.

And a lot of times we don't know what's taking place in other people's marriages.

I mean, the fact that they are still together might signify that for whatever reason, she, the wife, didn't react in the way that other people reacted on her behalf.

That...