Glenn Loury

Yeah. Yeah, I just basically said, this is something that has to be reckoned with. I said to John, my partner in conversation, who's also an African American. He teaches at Columbia University and writes a regular piece, a newsletter for the New York Times. And he took exception, and he and I, John and I, went back and forth about this.

Yeah. Yeah, I just basically said, this is something that has to be reckoned with. I said to John, my partner in conversation, who's also an African American. He teaches at Columbia University and writes a regular piece, a newsletter for the New York Times. And he took exception, and he and I, John and I, went back and forth about this.

Yeah. Yeah, I just basically said, this is something that has to be reckoned with. I said to John, my partner in conversation, who's also an African American. He teaches at Columbia University and writes a regular piece, a newsletter for the New York Times. And he took exception, and he and I, John and I, went back and forth about this.

And it came to me saying what I actually thought about what was happening in Gaza. And what I thought was October 7th, 2023 was horrific. What Hamas did was barbaric. I'm against it. I have no grief for it whatsoever. However, what I saw proceeding in the aftermath of that was a campaign of collective punishment that was horrific in the extreme.

And it came to me saying what I actually thought about what was happening in Gaza. And what I thought was October 7th, 2023 was horrific. What Hamas did was barbaric. I'm against it. I have no grief for it whatsoever. However, what I saw proceeding in the aftermath of that was a campaign of collective punishment that was horrific in the extreme.

And it came to me saying what I actually thought about what was happening in Gaza. And what I thought was October 7th, 2023 was horrific. What Hamas did was barbaric. I'm against it. I have no grief for it whatsoever. However, what I saw proceeding in the aftermath of that was a campaign of collective punishment that was horrific in the extreme.

And I didn't want to have my country having anything to do with it. And I wasn't afraid to say so. Now, I didn't say it quite that directly, but that's pretty much the burden of what it is I had to say.

And I didn't want to have my country having anything to do with it. And I wasn't afraid to say so. Now, I didn't say it quite that directly, but that's pretty much the burden of what it is I had to say.

And I didn't want to have my country having anything to do with it. And I wasn't afraid to say so. Now, I didn't say it quite that directly, but that's pretty much the burden of what it is I had to say.

No, no. I basically took up the cause that has animated a lot of agitation, not just on college campuses in the United States, but in public opinion throughout the world to say, stop it. I called for a ceasefire with the release of the hostages, of course. But I said, this is not what a civilized country should be doing. And I object.

No, no. I basically took up the cause that has animated a lot of agitation, not just on college campuses in the United States, but in public opinion throughout the world to say, stop it. I called for a ceasefire with the release of the hostages, of course. But I said, this is not what a civilized country should be doing. And I object.

No, no. I basically took up the cause that has animated a lot of agitation, not just on college campuses in the United States, but in public opinion throughout the world to say, stop it. I called for a ceasefire with the release of the hostages, of course. But I said, this is not what a civilized country should be doing. And I object.

No, you know, and a lot of Israelis agree with me. For sure.

No, you know, and a lot of Israelis agree with me. For sure.

No, you know, and a lot of Israelis agree with me. For sure.

Yeah. I mean, Omer, of course, but, um, many.

Yeah. I mean, Omer, of course, but, um, many.

Yeah. I mean, Omer, of course, but, um, many.

Um, so what, what happened next? Well, next, the outfit called Air Wars, A-I-R-W-A-R-S, Air Wars, which is an initiative to study the consequences of aerial bombardment in conflict, put out a report documenting the extensive civilian casualties that were being engendered by the bombing attacks that Israel was conducting in Gaza.

Um, so what, what happened next? Well, next, the outfit called Air Wars, A-I-R-W-A-R-S, Air Wars, which is an initiative to study the consequences of aerial bombardment in conflict, put out a report documenting the extensive civilian casualties that were being engendered by the bombing attacks that Israel was conducting in Gaza.