Glenn Singleton

We're thinking about the elderly, you know, and all of those things.

And as we serve them,

as we serve them, we actually serve ourselves better too.

And so that's the message.

When folks come in, you know, and they're sort of directed one way on immigration and I'm directed over here on racial justice, okay, I've got to help them to see that when we all win, we all win, right?

That's the key in here.

Totally agree.

Totally agree.

Right, so the first thing that I'm gonna suggest, even before you go through the internet, buy a book, take a seminar on courageous conversation, is you just get a sense of the paramount importance

of racial justice in this society.

Right.

This this cannot be what everybody understands to America to be without racial justice.

You just have to cross through that.

And so establishing that personal relationship to race in your life and to this trajectory of showing up on the side of anti-racism.

Right.

And that is the on ramp.

Once you get into that on ramp,

and you get into these conversations across the board, you're going to find people who don't agree with you.

And rather than a retreat from that, that's when you know that you're entering the next level, right?

Because we can all sit around and talk about people who pretty much share those, you know, those experiences and understandings of race.