Glynnis MacNichol

It was so critical.

She was treated as sort of a money digger who was not a serious person and maybe stupid, you know?

And I think the reality of it

which people who lived at the time or people have paid attention was that she was, you know, a highly successful career girl who landed in New York from working at a mall and a pretty middle-class upbringing with a single mom who got remarried and sort of had this incredible dreamy New York downtown life.

Like the, the media and sort of the world at large didn't have a vernacular for that version of Manhattan.

Cause you know, Manhattan was still a little,

sealed off that sort of downtown Manhattan culturally from sort of the world's perception of it.

And then Sex and the City, of course, lands in 1998, just prior to the plane crash, and suddenly gives the world a real language for this New York that she was occupying prior to her marriage.

I mean, she really was the Carrie Bradshaw before Carrie Bradshaw, right?

She's downtown fashion...

smoker, social life, successful woman who lands her Mr. Big.

And we never get the sort of post Mr. Big until the movies and sex in the city, but we really saw a pretty brutal version of it play out in their marriage.

She suffered enormously from that marriage.

She like went from this very vital, successful woman to a person who locked herself in

in that Tribeca apartment.

And this show, the first few episodes, it's been really interesting to see them tap into

the truth of what her life, or some version of the truth, at least, of what her life looked like pre-marriage, which never got conveyed in the media at the time at all.

Do you remember when Jackie Kennedy died?

It was like the world stopped.

funeral was broadcast across network news stations live, which at the time, you know, this is, it goes without saying pre-internet, but almost pre CNN and pre cable news.