Glynnis MacNichol

Like that's the entire country tuning in.

There's that scene in the, on the Calvin Klein office where they're all watching the funeral.

Like that's a,

I remember those moments of like all television networks turn into one thing.

And I clearly remember that.

I don't know if it's Dan Rather or Tom Brokaw said during this funeral, we will be referring to her as Mrs. Kennedy, not Mrs. Kennedy Onassis.

Like it was offensive to the American sensibility to even acknowledge that she

had married, you know, Onassis.

Yeah.

They really capture this shifting moment in New York.

I think people forget even that the crime rates were sky high up until the early 90s and then flipped sort of on a dime into the late 90s as being one of the safest places in the world.

And the fact that they didn't move to the Upper East Side to a doorman building made them very vulnerable to this sort of sidewalk tabloid journalism, which really just arrived around 1995, 96.

So they're sort of standing in this weird epicenter of

of all these shifting currents that are all flowing through them, you know, and what they represent at this time.

And, you know, will he, he was, he was as much a public figure from birth as a private one, but without all the protections of the Royal family and without sort of that historical necessarily expectation, although he certainly had some as JFK's child, but it's like they're, they weirdly have,

they, they weirdly embody a whole moment and a whole, and not just New York city, but just sort of in American culture that like this flip happens that I think, you know, is, is super fascinating and, you know, still relevant that I clocked that thing too.

When he was walking through the office, smelling, he always, you know, he walked with a swagger and like an openness.

And I remember seeing her on the street and she was terrified at all times.

Like she was such clearly petrified of being out.

And it sort of makes me sad in hindsight.