Gordon Brown

That's why.

And eventually we actually got a roll of 10 for the same price for 39p.

And they sold just as quickly.

And that was in the mid to late 90s that was happening.

I think if you take C&A, first of all, C&A was a real boost to Wilco.

It was just in the early 2000s.

And we were able to acquire a batch of stores in the south and west from C&A.

And that gave us a real impetus in that area.

The other thing that helped us at that time was the move by the grocers.

Because grocers were moving out of town to the edge of town.

They were shutting down those smaller stores.

People at Asda, Sainsbury's, Tesco, they wanted the edge of town stores, big superstore type arrangement.

And we picked up those stores.

Woolworths were a different situation.

And their demise came after my retirement.

But I know that Wilkinson did not take that many stores on compared to the other retailers like Poundland, 99p stores, Home Bargains, etc.,

I think they did.

Yeah, very much so.

I think they saw it as the people's store.

It wasn't pretentious.