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Gordon Carrera

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

It's not making the case for war.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

It's just putting information into the public domain for people to make up their own minds about Saddam.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Sure.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

No.

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And in fact, I don't think it had really ever been done in this way by the Joint Intelligence Committee.

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

So this is really completely new.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

There have been some little things.

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

There have been something after the run up to Afghanistan a year or two earlier, where they put some intelligence in the public domain.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And occasionally, a politician might deploy some intelligence.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

But the idea of doing a dossier

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

to tell people about a specific thing where the government is pursuing a particular agenda, that does feel new, I think.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

It's a bit more common in the US, but it's perhaps got more common.

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

But it is because of the power that intelligence has, isn't it?

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

It's because of the mystique surrounding it in intelligence agencies.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And politicians, if they're trying to make a case, are thinking, we'll have a bit of that.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

We want a bit of that.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

No one had ever done this before where you've got a dossier, which is going to be a joint intelligence committee dossier, but where you've got political appointees also involved in the process and commenting on it.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And I think that's where some of the difficulties come with this.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Yeah.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And that is, I think, the problem.