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Gordon Carrera

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Because as they start working on this public case on both sides of the Atlantic...

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

focusing here on the UK, but it's definitely true on the American side as well.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

They kind of go, well, we know he's got WMD, but they look at the actual facts that they can put out into the public domain.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

They go, well, that doesn't look that good because, of course, it's not there.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

But they think, well, that's a bit weak.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

But the intelligence is described as sporadic and patchy in March by the Joint Intelligence Committee.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Sporadic empathy does not sound very convincing if you're making a public case, does it?

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

No.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Yeah.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

So you get two pressures.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

One is how far can you push this intelligence you have, reduce the caveats?

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And the second is, can you actually improve the intelligence base of which you're working, which is thin, as we said, to get fresh intelligence, to make it stronger?

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

And we're going to see a bit of both of those things.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

I mean, we've talked about the analytic failure by the poor old analysts.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

I think here we get into a collection failure, though, particularly for MI6.

The Rest Is Classified
156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

We talked last time about Iraq having been a bit of a backwater in the 90s for collection.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

They'd been reliant on inspectors.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

They were out.

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

Now, by 2002, though, unsurprisingly, it's a top collection priority, isn't it?

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156. The Road to Iraq: Tony Blair's Campaign for War (Ep 4)

But it's not easy to quickly step up that collection.