Gordon Carrera

I don't know what you think, but he's probably realised at this point that if he disappears, that's just going to be taken as confirmation and leave him and his family worried.

So I think he takes this decision.

He's going to go public.

He's going to appear before journalists.

He's going to do interviews.

And deny everything.

Yeah, that's his only hope, yeah.

I mean, some of the bits are bizarre because he tells journalists who approach him that it's been a mistake.

There must be an Alfredo Scappaticci who's got confused with him, Federico Scappaticci.

And he also goes to see the IRA leadership.

Now, we have to remember, from 1998, there's been a Good Friday Agreement.

So there is a peace process now.

So the war has effectively stopped.

But everyone in the IRA appears to be in shock because they worry that they've been penetrated by their enemy.

But I think for them, again, it goes back to this point.

It's really hard to admit it's true, isn't it?

And to kind of acknowledge that it's scappatici.

Better for them as well to deny it.

Well, that's the problem.

It's basically sources...