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Gordon Carrera

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

The reason Wildsy had met him was that was the period where Scappaticci had wanted reassurance, you know, with Stephen's inquiry going on, that he wouldn't be exposed.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

So Wildsy had been the one to kind of...

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

meet him.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And Wilsey, you know, described him as the best agent, the golden egg, and, you know, kind of goes through a description of why.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

So basically, Hurst has got Wilsey to admit, you know, that Scappaticci is steak knife now.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

So, you know, the ability to deny it is just, you know, completely falling apart.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

That's right.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Canova initially launched under police officer John Boucher starts building a case, not just against Scappaticci, but even those that handled him.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And this is a massive and deeply difficult task as you get this final clash between different parts of the state effectively about whether or not the truth about steak knife should come out.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

So maybe at that point, let's take a break and look at how it really does come to an end for Freddie Scappaticci.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

From the writer of Bridge of Spies and the BAFTA-winning director of Peaky Blinders, here comes the new Sky original action thriller, Prisoner.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

A prison transport officer and a professional killer are handcuffed together and forced to go on the run.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And they must make impossible moral choices in order to survive.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

That's right, David.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And in this series, it's built around the things we find most compelling.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Which are, of course, conspiracy, institutional corruption...

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

and moral ambiguity.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

That's us.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

These are the grey areas where the right call isn't always clear.