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Gordon Carrera

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

That's right, so it's the next great thing to binge and you can watch all episodes from the 30th of April on Sky.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Yeah, I mean, driven really by families.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

I mean, because of course, parts of the British state don't want this to come out, but the families and others of victims of people who've been killed by the IRA want to know the truth.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And as more and more details of state knife have come out, that leads to this decision.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Now, previous inquiries into Northern Ireland have been a kind of

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Problematic, let's put it that way.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

We talked about Stephen's inquiry into collusion.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

He will say, I was misled, I was criminally obstructed from doing my job, people failed to disclose information from me.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Canova is going to see similar challenges in trying to get to the truth about State Knife.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Remember, this is an inquiry, a British inquiry, led by a British police officer.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

Some of the details are fascinating.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

They're not comic, but they are blackly kind of comic in some ways.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

At one point, they're given access to a computer system and told that they have full access.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

This is the Canova investigators.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

But they then realise that the Ministry of Defence officials have different logins to the same computer system.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

And when they test...

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

access with the MOD logins, they find they get loads more results which had been hidden from them.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

It's just one example of how parts of the state do not want the truth to come out.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

It's the same.

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152. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: Unmasking the Traitor (Ep 4)

It's described as an extremely fractious relationship with MI5.