Gordon Carrera

Yep.

And it's worth saying, as you go through what it has got, that that is a difficult target as well, isn't it?

If you're talking about destruction, this is not like destroying one big domed reactor like in Iraq.

You're talking about relatively small research sites which can be used to do some of the studies in metallurgy to make the components for a bomb.

And you're talking about people.

So you're talking about a lot of different sites.

And that is a harder target set, isn't it?

25 years, maybe, yeah.

Yeah.

And so I think what you can say is that things like the assassination program degrade the program because you take out some of the best brains, but they don't destroy it.

You know, and I think that is one of the lessons for that.

So that's weaponization.

The delivery system, I think, is interesting, isn't it?

Because this is also one of the other big topics of the recent or the ongoing war, wherever we are in it, which is this issue of Iran's ballistic missile capabilities, because it has been developing ballistic missiles and it had these medium range ballistic missiles, the Shahab-3.

which have got ranges of 1,000 to 2,000 kilometers, which can reach targets in the Middle East.

Now, there was this very interesting moment a few weeks back where they did fire a missile at Diego Garcia, this UK-US base, quite controversial military base in some ways.

Didn't hit and one got intercepted.

Raised questions about whether they actually have a longer range missile capability, but some people think what had actually happened was that they'd actually just taken out some of the payload so that the missile would go further.

But it's led to at least some debate about what the extent of Iran's range might be in terms of striking targets.

Could it hit European targets?