Gordon Carrera

There is this thing called the Oil for Food Programme through the UN to try and get food to people, but that's subject to massive corruption.

In the US and UK, the secret policy is regime change.

But in practice, the diplomatic policy is containment.

But there's a growing sense it's not working and it might not be sustainable in the long run.

But no one's really got an alternative.

They're not really kind of going for regime change all out.

So Saddam is thinking, well, you know, the most that will happen now, I've got rid of inspections, is maybe occasionally I'll get some airstrikes.

But in the long term, I'm going to be okay because the appetite to keep this regime of sanctions and the suffering of the people going is going to eventually crumble.

And then I'll be free.

Yes, and even though Saddam Hussein was not behind that attack, there will be some in Washington who want to claim he was, and will want to immediately put Iraq in Washington's sights for regime change.

So that will be next time on The Rest is Classified.

But a reminder, you don't have to wait.

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See you next time.

And I'm Gordon Carrera.

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This is an important part of the story because he's still reporting to the Brits occasionally in this period in the early 1990s, but the number of meetings has dropped off.