Gordon Carrera

They could move money, they could hide money.

Epstein was also good at those things.

Could you buy a building somewhere?

Our government would have a hard time buying a building in denied country.

A, could you help us do that?

Interestingly, if they have access to an organization, family office, could you provide cover to some of our intelligence officers or NOCs through that organization or family office?

Could you help link these kind of two networks that you know that you can connect that would

we want connected to enable this kind of operation.

Right.

So Epstein's a spy.

Well, it's like, okay, that's not a helpful tagline because it, it ignores the different, uh,

ways in which someone could actually work with or for an intelligence service.

But having kind of laid that out, I think what does seem substantiated, as we get to the end of our two-episode exploration of this question about whether Epstein was working with or for an intelligence service,

what seems substantiated is that Epstein used his network, some of which did rub kind of, you know, up close to the intelligence world.

They're kind of spy or intelligence adjacent, as we've said.

He used those networks to promote the financial interest that he and his friends had.

And that there was probably an overlap in some of these cases between his own financial interests, the interests of his friends, and Israeli security.

But

It looks like he was probably kind of a social broker in deep pockets guy for Ehud Barak, right?

From these emails, at least.