Gordon Carrera

Because, you know, they've realised they've got a leak. Some of it looks like it relates to Britain. You know, he's reported to have gone round colleagues asking, is anyone in your teams at GCHQ taking a long holiday? And also, I mean, the US tried to get him to lean on the Guardian to get him to stop it. And he's like, you know, that's not what we do.

And I think meanwhile, in NSA as well, there's this kind of desperate panic as they realise their secrets are being unfurled. But first, they could hope that maybe the Verizon story was a leak from inside Verizon. Which would make sense. Which would make sense. But once you get Prism, you're like, oh, no, this is someone who's got access to the secrets.

And I think meanwhile, in NSA as well, there's this kind of desperate panic as they realise their secrets are being unfurled. But first, they could hope that maybe the Verizon story was a leak from inside Verizon. Which would make sense. Which would make sense. But once you get Prism, you're like, oh, no, this is someone who's got access to the secrets.

And I think meanwhile, in NSA as well, there's this kind of desperate panic as they realise their secrets are being unfurled. But first, they could hope that maybe the Verizon story was a leak from inside Verizon. Which would make sense. Which would make sense. But once you get Prism, you're like, oh, no, this is someone who's got access to the secrets.

They do the classic leak inquiry thing, which is, I guess, say, who's got access to these documents and try and narrow it down. It's kind of hard. It's too many people, probably.

They do the classic leak inquiry thing, which is, I guess, say, who's got access to these documents and try and narrow it down. It's kind of hard. It's too many people, probably.

They do the classic leak inquiry thing, which is, I guess, say, who's got access to these documents and try and narrow it down. It's kind of hard. It's too many people, probably.

So at this point, we're heading to kind of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and the NSA are kind of, it seems like, and I've been asking people about this, they say they were narrowing down their list of suspects.

So at this point, we're heading to kind of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and the NSA are kind of, it seems like, and I've been asking people about this, they say they were narrowing down their list of suspects.

So at this point, we're heading to kind of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and the NSA are kind of, it seems like, and I've been asking people about this, they say they were narrowing down their list of suspects.

So I'm going to be honest. I still think there are some mysteries around this investigation that leads to Snowden, which I think are unresolved and don't make sense to me even years later. Because the fact Snowden's girlfriend is visited, that could be because he's absent.

So I'm going to be honest. I still think there are some mysteries around this investigation that leads to Snowden, which I think are unresolved and don't make sense to me even years later. Because the fact Snowden's girlfriend is visited, that could be because he's absent.

So I'm going to be honest. I still think there are some mysteries around this investigation that leads to Snowden, which I think are unresolved and don't make sense to me even years later. Because the fact Snowden's girlfriend is visited, that could be because he's absent.

But the person who provides an email account, which Snowden has been using to anonymously contact journalists, he said, and he told me years ago, that he had been contacted at the end of May.

But the person who provides an email account, which Snowden has been using to anonymously contact journalists, he said, and he told me years ago, that he had been contacted at the end of May.

But the person who provides an email account, which Snowden has been using to anonymously contact journalists, he said, and he told me years ago, that he had been contacted at the end of May.

by the FBI to ask for details of a certain account, which suggests that they were looking at something, you know, whether they were monitoring the journalists and had spotted something and were working that way by having, you know, monitored Laura Poitras and seen she was contacting someone.

by the FBI to ask for details of a certain account, which suggests that they were looking at something, you know, whether they were monitoring the journalists and had spotted something and were working that way by having, you know, monitored Laura Poitras and seen she was contacting someone.

by the FBI to ask for details of a certain account, which suggests that they were looking at something, you know, whether they were monitoring the journalists and had spotted something and were working that way by having, you know, monitored Laura Poitras and seen she was contacting someone.

Whether you've got two different inquiries and then you have Snowden's absence and then you have this and then they all converge on Snowden, I don't know. But I think there are some things we've still not understood yet about what was going on inside the investigation there. Anyway, it's mysterious.