Gordon Carrera

And he does the smart thing, which some people in bureaucracies understand, which is that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Because once he's basically said, yes, we're going to do this, he then sends a flash cable to Ottawa.

And this actually has to go first to the foreign minister, who then has to grab the prime minister who's in parliament and say, is this OK?

And the message comes back from Canada, yeah, we're going to do this.

And I think that, you know, firstly, Ken to do that, to take that, to make that decision himself.

and then run it back by headquarters next is a big call.

And for the Canadian government to do this is a big call because it is risky, isn't it?

I mean, other countries, it looks like, were not so keen on taking the risk of sheltering Americans.

And this Canadian diplomat and his higher-ups thought, no, no, we're going to do this.

Yeah.

And he actually spends a lot of time, doesn't he?

He's kind of trying to corral other diplomats in Tehran to complain about this and make more of a thing about it.

So he and the Canadian government go out on a bit of a limb to do this.

But of course, they do it secretly.

We should stress that.

It might be worth coming back to the Canadian politics of it later because they're very interesting.

Hold on.

You thought you were here for CIA Tradecraft.

We're going to give you Canadian politics.

That's going to keep everyone listening.