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Chapter 1: What was the context leading to the Iranian hostage crisis?
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One of the most audacious rescue operations CIA has ever run. It begins with a mob at the gates of the US embassy in Tehran. Six diplomats slipping out a side door and a man painting a wolf in a studio above his garage in rural Maryland. This is the true story of Argo.
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Well, welcome to The Rest is Classified. I'm Gordon Carrera. And I'm David McCloskey. And today, David, we begin a four-part series on, I think, one of the most strange and perhaps improbable intelligence operations in history, how the CIA, and we'll come back to how much it really was the CIA. It took Gordon...
20 seconds to sandbag the CIA. We were talking about this before we started recording and no discipline, Gordon.
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Chapter 2: How did the CIA plan the audacious rescue operation?
about 38 years, and since the early 60s, he's undertaken a really breakneck modernization program of land reform, women's suffrage, secular schools, literacy campaigns. It's been funded by oil money that's also rapidly developing Tehran, so the skyline of the city changes in these years. You have very famously wealthy secular women in Tehran are wearing miniskirts, they're going to university.
The countryside, for the most part, is still very religious, deeply traditional. And in summarizing the root causes of the Iranian revolution in about a minute, you essentially have a situation in which modernization and this corrupt, autocratic, fairly brutal regime of the Shah is all widening socioeconomic and cultural schisms in the country. You have... Massive bouts of inflation.
The Shah, importantly, is also sick with lymphatic cancer. CIA doesn't know this. The Americans don't know this. All of this turns Iran into a tinderbox and you have significant protests that begin against the Shah's regime.
Yes. And so the protests start, you get strikes, you get demonstrations. 1978, you get repression, you get clamped down. You, of course, have this exiled Shia cleric, Ayatollah Khomeini, who is one of the kind of key figures who's been leading from the Islamic side, the opposition to the monarchy. And then in January 1979, the Shah and his wife fly out of Tehran.
And he says, I think he's going on holiday, doesn't he? But he's never going to return. And then Ayatollah Khomeini comes back from his exile and returns to Tehran. He's not yet seized power yet. There's a provisional government. It's kind of a febrile atmosphere, isn't it? And at this point, you get the first tensions, particularly with the US.
And the US is getting targeted for interesting reasons, isn't it? It's partly because, of course, the Shah has been backed by the United States. He's been their backer. And of course, you've got the kind of Islamist dislike of the United States. The US embassy is a target, isn't it?
But I mean, at this point, again, we don't have an Islamic Republic. We have a provisional government. It is a very chaotic security and political situation inside Iran. And on the 14th of February, 1979, a group of Iranian Marxist guerrillas storm the US embassy in Tehran. This is not the famous embassy seizure of November of 1979. We're coming to that. It's a prelude to it, isn't it?
It's a prelude to that. And they hold the embassy in including much of its staff for four or so hours, the provisional government, with Ayatollah Khomeini's blessing, send in soldiers to boot the occupiers out. And we bring this up for a couple of reasons. The first is that the American embassy staff is drastically reduced after this happens, including the CIA station.
And second, and this is the most important point, the U.S. comes away with the impression that the Iranian government will protect the embassy if anything ever happens again. Because... The provisional government didn't want the Marxist guerrillas to take over the embassy.
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Chapter 3: What role did Hollywood play in the Argo operation?
Here we go. Sometimes you need them.
Sometimes they help.
That's right. CIA is planning for Operation Eagle Claw. CIA is leaning on Ken Taylor.
And we should say Eagle Claw is the rescue operation for the hostages, which we'll look at another time. We're not going to get deep into those other hostages.
In my notes, I was like, Gordon was going to talk a little bit about Eagle Claw, and instead he just talked about Ken Taylor. So we didn't even talk about Eagle Claw. Ken Taylor and James Bond distinguish them all. Okay, so the CIA is planning for what will become Operation Eagle Claw. The CIA is also trying to rebuild lost human intelligence networks inside Iran.
Because think about it, the CIA had run assets in Iran who were trying to get out as the security situation has devolved. The CIA also had a network of stay-behind agents in Tehran. These are Iranian citizens who had agreed to keep reporting. A lot of these have melted away. The agency is trying to get officers in under non-traditional cover.
There's also, Mendez talks about this in his book, there's a wild CIA plan to try to deceive the world into thinking that the Shah, who has then come to the US and who is one of the proximate causes of the diplomats continuing to be held, is the fact that the Shah is in the United States of America.
And the reasoning in the CIA plan is the idea is, let's make it look like the Shah has fled the U.S. or even died. And the idea is pitched at the CIA of the reasoning that the hostages are taken because the Shah's in the U.S., removing him might remove the problem. They actually fly, the CIA flies disguise and makeup specialists out from Hollywood.
We're going to talk much more about the Hollywood connection in the next episode. And the plan was to create a body double of the Shah and stage his death. And the idea made it up to the deputy director of CIA before the idea was killed.
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Chapter 4: Who were the key players involved in the rescue of the diplomats?
You're not joining the CIA as a kind of classic spy, but as a graphic artist. The skills, actually, of Mendes as an artist are relevant to what he's going to be doing, as well as the practical skills, I guess, if you like, of being able to draw. But also, I mean, as we know in the intelligence world, actually, you're dealing with sometimes with forgeries, with pictures, with things like that.
And I think that's one of the interesting aspects of this, isn't it? He's got a really peculiar skill set. I don't know if you knew any artists or forgers at the CIA or whether you can tell us all.
Well, they're not called forgers. They're called artist validators, Gordon.
Is that really what they're called? No, really. Yeah, yeah. I've heard some people doing some fake monies and they're going to start calling themselves artist validators.
I think it's a very fascinating subculture of the CIA. These people that come in out of trades, right? and end up with jobs in espionage. I mean, as we'll see in some of the forgery work, Gordon, you need chemists, right? So you have PhD chemists working on these teams at the CIA. You have people who are carpenters.
You have people who are obsessive about documents and the creation of documents and the supplies, the inks, the papers. So there's a very, this is the world that Mendez is recruited into. And he'll wind up working for what is then known as the Technical Services Division, which has then renamed the Office of Technical Service in 1973.
Back a good year ago when we did MKUltra. I mean, this is where Sidney Gottlieb famously came out of. Friend of the pod. Friend of the pod, the people who made the poisons at one point in the 50s and the 60s. But I guess now it's also – it's a wide array of skill sets who are doing all kinds of things. But it's very practical, isn't it?
Disguises as well as forged documents, these kind of things. I mean, you do wonder how much of it would be done by AI now these days, some of those – some of those documentation and those things. But I guess some of it is still very physical, isn't it?
There's something very physical and practical about the devices, the disguises, the forgeries, but that particularly in this era are having to be made by these people.
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