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Gordon Carrera

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The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

for the tunes that they played.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Someone has put it together.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And it's great because they've got some... They've got Welcome to the Jungle by Guns N' Roses.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

They've got Panama by Van Halen.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Very, very apt.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I think All I Want Is You by U2.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

So I think whoever was doing... And I think it was someone in Southern Command for the US military.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Whoever was doing the playlist was clearly trying to find funny song titles, which they could also blare loudly at Noriega, who it turns out was an opera lover and hated...

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

rock music to try and get him out, but eventually it works.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

That's a kind of wild way of doing a capture operation.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Which I think goes back to the point we made right at the start of this two-part series, which is the operation itself

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

was flawlessly executed and incredibly effective at doing what it wanted to do.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

But where it leads to and what happens next is much less clear.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And I think that's where the tricky bit comes because it's one thing to carry out that operation, but until you know what's going to replace Maduro, until you understand the consequence of it, it's a lot hard to say that the overall outcome

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

policy is a success.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And I think that's perhaps where we should end up, is where does this new doctrine and new policy take us?

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Yeah, I think that's right.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I mean, to some extent, the Russians are already trying to do that, and they tried to do it in Ukraine.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

So it's not like they could be more emboldened, but they might see it as an opening.