Gordon Carrera
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just a few months before, had been asked in Congress by a senator, almost a question which suggests that the senator knew about this program because the senator said, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? And Clapper's reply was no.
just a few months before, had been asked in Congress by a senator, almost a question which suggests that the senator knew about this program because the senator said, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? And Clapper's reply was no.
just a few months before, had been asked in Congress by a senator, almost a question which suggests that the senator knew about this program because the senator said, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? And Clapper's reply was no.
I think what's interesting, if it had just been that one story, it would have been big, but actually it's really an American story. It's about the American Constitution and legal protections. But, and I think you can imagine US officials going, okay, well, you know, that's bad.
I think what's interesting, if it had just been that one story, it would have been big, but actually it's really an American story. It's about the American Constitution and legal protections. But, and I think you can imagine US officials going, okay, well, you know, that's bad.
I think what's interesting, if it had just been that one story, it would have been big, but actually it's really an American story. It's about the American Constitution and legal protections. But, and I think you can imagine US officials going, okay, well, you know, that's bad.
But then the Guardian tells US officials who they're in contact with, that they've got another story coming down the line. And I think that's important because it makes clear that it's not just a single document that's been leaked, but there's more and it's coming from what looks like the inside the NSA.
But then the Guardian tells US officials who they're in contact with, that they've got another story coming down the line. And I think that's important because it makes clear that it's not just a single document that's been leaked, but there's more and it's coming from what looks like the inside the NSA.
But then the Guardian tells US officials who they're in contact with, that they've got another story coming down the line. And I think that's important because it makes clear that it's not just a single document that's been leaked, but there's more and it's coming from what looks like the inside the NSA.
So the next day, there's a little race, but the Guardian publishes a story on something called PRISM. Now, this is another biggie in terms of a reveal. And I think for a lot of people, this is perhaps, particularly around the world. This is the more famous one. This is about the content of emails and communications, which are coming from big US tech firms.
So the next day, there's a little race, but the Guardian publishes a story on something called PRISM. Now, this is another biggie in terms of a reveal. And I think for a lot of people, this is perhaps, particularly around the world. This is the more famous one. This is about the content of emails and communications, which are coming from big US tech firms.
So the next day, there's a little race, but the Guardian publishes a story on something called PRISM. Now, this is another biggie in terms of a reveal. And I think for a lot of people, this is perhaps, particularly around the world. This is the more famous one. This is about the content of emails and communications, which are coming from big US tech firms.
So this is about basically the idea that the NSA had access to directly to companies like Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Apple, to things like Gmail, Outlook, Photos, all the data that people are sending around the world. This is, in some ways, a more stunning revelation because everyone around the world uses American tech companies.
So this is about basically the idea that the NSA had access to directly to companies like Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Apple, to things like Gmail, Outlook, Photos, all the data that people are sending around the world. This is, in some ways, a more stunning revelation because everyone around the world uses American tech companies.
So this is about basically the idea that the NSA had access to directly to companies like Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Apple, to things like Gmail, Outlook, Photos, all the data that people are sending around the world. This is, in some ways, a more stunning revelation because everyone around the world uses American tech companies.
You know, those were basically the only companies you used for email and for everything else. And suddenly this program is being revealed saying the NSA appears to have access to it and is able to target and get particular accounts and details of it.
You know, those were basically the only companies you used for email and for everything else. And suddenly this program is being revealed saying the NSA appears to have access to it and is able to target and get particular accounts and details of it.
You know, those were basically the only companies you used for email and for everything else. And suddenly this program is being revealed saying the NSA appears to have access to it and is able to target and get particular accounts and details of it.
But if you go back to that time, I mean, if you then talk to people now about what it was like in GCHQ, Britain's intelligence agency, I mean, there is blind panic. Ian Lobben, who was then the director, later said, when I heard the news, I lay awake saying to myself, I hope this isn't a Brit. Because they've realised they've got a leak. Some of it looks like it relates to Britain.
But if you go back to that time, I mean, if you then talk to people now about what it was like in GCHQ, Britain's intelligence agency, I mean, there is blind panic. Ian Lobben, who was then the director, later said, when I heard the news, I lay awake saying to myself, I hope this isn't a Brit. Because they've realised they've got a leak. Some of it looks like it relates to Britain.