Grace Beverley

And you have to stay open minded to that.

And the only way of staying open minded to that is like constantly checking in and like rejecting these other things that have been imposed on that.

I also loved the part in your book where you talked about like reclaiming the idea of a spinster.

Can you explain that a little bit for us for the podcast?

100% I'll live in a beautiful house by myself you had to make us scared of that so we would feel like we would need to settle for anything that wasn't good enough you had to make that vision so scary for us

And that timeline we talked about in terms of like getting a mortgage, getting into a relationship, having children, getting married, like whatever it might be.

How do you stop that from running your life?

Because obviously you kind of broke out of that.

And I think that so many people listening to this will feel...

Like their only option is to be worried about that timeline because if they're not worried about it, they're not doing anything about it.

And especially high achieving women and a lot of people who listen to this podcast will be like, well, I saw everything else out in my life in terms of like how I aim for this, that and the other.

Like surely I need to just make that work somehow, even if it's not right to tick off the timeline.

Like how do you actually get out of that running your life?

waiting for this I honestly think that all the time because I think that like I I can't sit here and say like oh I'm not worried about a timeline when I've done certain things on a timeline that might have been the things aimed for I absolutely had a timeline and I'm very I feel very lucky that I coincidentally seem to meet the right person on that timeline at the same time I wish I could go back and like shake myself the myself that was like getting out of a relationship and completely freaking out even though I would

never have married that well I should never have married that person like as in they never would have been right for me we never would have built the life we wanted together I would have compromised every single thing about the life I want just to be picked and like I look back and I'm like I think that there would have been so much space for me just to be able to have like a great time with my friends building female friendships like something I believe so strongly in and have put so much time and effort into yeah

Particularly like beyond marriage, which I think is a whole other question, because I think that some people seem almost surprised that I'm like still taking girls trips or still going this place or still doing this because I'm married and pregnant and like all of those things.

And it's like, ah, but I do just think that, like, I wish I could just go back and shake myself and be like, worrying about it is not going to speed it up, first of all.

So if that's what you're concerned about.

And you're just excited to meet someone on a girls trip.

Exactly.