Grace Beverley

Just actually spend the time enjoying your life and building a life that makes you happy.

If someone fits in that, fantastic.

But it's more likely you're going to find the right person if they fit into your actual dream life rather than you building your dream life around the person that you happen to meet at the right time.

Yeah, no, I absolutely agree with that.

And I'd like to come to speak a little bit too about confidence because I feel like I think a lot about the fact that...

little girls seem to be really confident and there is a point at which that seems to just be sucked out of us like if you are going to make it or you're going to get somewhere or whatever like your confidence has to be shrunk because I think we talk about like particularly women in their 20s it's like imposter syndrome and needing to build up confidence and all of that I look at like young girls and I'm like

No, you're so confident.

You know who you are.

Like, you're so excited about these things.

Where do you think that shift happens?

I loved your kind of take in the book about body confidence and everything.

How have you thought about that over time?

Like, how has that changed as someone who was pushed to look a certain way and dress a certain way or whatever when you were trying to start out at the industry you're in now versus someone who's kind of, I guess, grown into themselves?

Yeah, no, I think that's really powerful.

And I think that it is sometimes those like cliches that you're like, yeah, it kind of like it does work.

And then it makes total sense.

Like when I...

see friends torn up over like how they're looking or how small they are or how big they are or like whatever it might be it's like genuinely how you look is the least interesting thing about you it's so so tough particularly now particularly with social media I would love to know because I think all of these things are easy to hear about I think that some people might listen and be like okay

Yeah, of course, I'd love to love myself.

Yeah, exactly.