Grace Carr

It's all been open, transparent and inclusive.

Then the rate of compliance within protected areas is generally higher as well because everyone's been brought along and they feel part of it.

I was just going to say as well that I have lots of hope that we'll reach the 2030 targets.

And one of the things we need to make sure we have, as well as everything else that we've been saying about the stakeholder engagement,

And the political will is also the financing.

We need to make sure that there is good financing back in all this because we can have all the legislation in the world, do all the white papers, reports.

But if the government does not actually put money behind this to restore and protect nature, then how are we going to do it?